Thursday, January 21, 2021

A little thought provoking

I guess you would have to live in both countries to know. I can't say I've noticed much difference between English women and Australian women but I am just going by R's family where the women are what I describe as strong. Interesting to ponder and I don't know where this came from or when it was written but with the word organically is used, it can't be too long ago.

“…very independent women.”

My most favorite commentary of all. When I returned to the United States I could not believe how conservative and repressed most American women felt to me.

Australian women are among the most organically self-possessed population on our planet. From whose standpoint American women seem unsure.



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  1. Interesting. From my own (limited) viewpoint American women seem to be more self confident than many Australian ones.
    I will be interested to read the comments to your post.

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  2. Does it mean they are self-possess without artificial stimulants?

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  3. Quite interesting. The 2000's have brought many changes to American women. They are career driven, motivated more so than their male counter-parts, and at the same time many want a family as well. The women in my daughter's circle are all professional women, with families, and none are shy about speaking their mind. I, however, tend to be a bit more repressed.

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    1. Maribeth, maybe it is a generational thing.

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  4. Interesting but have you met many NZ women they are the strongest of all.
    Merle.............



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    1. Merle, thinking about the NZ women I have known, I thing I agree.

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  5. gawd, we're always being judged, if not for our bodies, now for our... um self possession?

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    1. Don't worry Strayer. I judge men too, more often in person.

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  6. They're very big on religion over there,(USA), perhaps that has something to do with it?
    I do remember in most British sitcoms, the men are usually portrayed as "henpecked", so it's a fair bet to say that English women rule the roost and possibly hold the purse strings too.
    I know many Australian men who handed over their pay and got to keep "an allowance", but I think that has all changed now with both men and women working, so both contribute to household running, savings etc and both get their own unquestioned spending money.

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    1. River, I think you are correct about religion, certainly historically. That is my impression too of English women. The best thing R ever insisted on was each of having our own money. We can still question the wisdom of what each other spends money on but we can't control what the money is spent on.

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  7. In my opinion is that religious has more to do with woman than a country. Mostly the evangels Christian is more obedient and submissive.
    Coffee is on and stay safe

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    1. Thanks Dora. The church once more behind things....

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  8. Having just read EC's comment, that's true too, they're taught to stand up for themselves and their rights from a very early age.

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    1. I'm really not sure River.

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    2. They are in movies I watch.

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  9. If you are being constantly told that a certain country is 'The Land of the Free', one tends to believe it; but it ain't necessarily so! Personally I don't think there's another country with as much freedom as England, but maybe too much so.

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    1. Cro, I would have to think long and hard about English freedom. If tv shows are anything to go by, there is no way here that you would get away with the way many English speak to police.

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    2. Even shoplifting is no longer a crime for many. I think you're allowed to steal anything below the value of £20. What a state of affairs!!!

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  10. Interesting about the Australian women.
    Can't speak of England or US women as I don't know any personally.

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  11. Thank you Andrew! I cannot believe I remembered this.

    In 1966, on a Gap Year abroad, all the Australians, New Zealanders and Americans met in one room to be introduced to each other. I was mortified by how quiet and polite the Antipodean 18 year olds were, and refreshed by how bouncy the American teens were.

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  12. Hels, I suppose the world is a very different place so many decades later. Interesting memory nevertheless.

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  13. Above comments interesting Andrew, in my experience it doesn't do to generalise, confidence can relate to just about anything, parents.. let's blame the parents 😀 no I'm definitely kidding about that, but life experiences can have a huge effect.. see what you started 😀😀

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    1. Grace, but aren't life time experiences partly generated by the kind of country where you live?

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  14. There was a great book a few years ago, Lean In by Sheryl Sandberg about sexism and devaluing the contribution of women in the American workplace. Reading it, helped me understand and change my behavior, both men and women contribute to the role of women in American society, and it is time for change, for example, madam Vice-President.

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    1. Travel, I think vigilance about sexism should always be present. Men have to pull themselves up frequently and think. Harris is a delight and I am so pleased she is in a position of influence.

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  15. Hmmmm...I know a lot of pretty strong American women, so I'd be hesitant to generalize based on nationality. But it is true that the Australian women I've met are very self-possessed! (And Australia did produce Germaine Greer, after all.)

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    1. Steve, it is surely very much a generalisation, but such are usually based on some substance. The rather divisive Germs really.

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  16. I believe the patriarchy is much more powerful in the states, especially the red ones. I am self assertive and still railing against the system in my late seventies. It was a learning process. I was raised to be a wife and mother. I have Oz friends in real life who did not find themselves treated well so emigrated to Canada and were successful. Things would have changed by now in Oz.

    A big BUT here, women are always on the verge of getting their rights removed by different governments. I find it enormously stressful as I find younger women just giving in to the status quo. I do write my own blog post on this so I must down the road.

    XO
    WWW

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    1. WWW, I very much agree with the comparison between your country and the States. All rights and justice gained by women must be protected and move forward, and that applies to minority groups too.

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  17. You picked a topic that elicited some great responses. I don't disagree with some women being submissive because of religious views. Which is irritating.

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    1. Sandra, I suppose the bible has set that up for centuries. Only by the reduction of influence of the church on society have things really changed.

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  18. My first thought was that you really can't stereotype. I know plenty of independent women. But I also know plenty of women who are not actually dependent maybe, but see their role as to be supportive of the man. In my house, we are supportive of each other. I never really considered whether we were typical or not. I just assumed we were.

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    1. Debby, could it be that you would not be attracted to such people and so not really know them?

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