Monday, April 28, 2014

Liz, Charlie, Will, Kate and Little Georgie.

I am genuinely interested in what you think about the Queen in England and royalty.

Apparently she is also Queen of Australia, and in my memory, via the Governor General of Australia, she sacked a properly elected government in Australia.

We have just had William, Kate and baby George visit us down under. They were treated as celebrities which is unsurprising, a prince, a newish bride and a baby. Golly he is bald. Golly she is thin. Wee George seemed a little querulous at times and it was mentioned he will be our future king.

Surely by the time that process happens we won't have born to rule types lording it over us in Australia.

After Charles becomes our king, the baton will pass to William. What sort of king will he make? I wouldn't have a clue really. He could be brain dead for all I know. He is going to be King of Australia and I know little about him. I assume he can add and subtract and write a proper sentence. But what are his thoughts about things? Over his father's life time we have come to know that Charles likes such as, no I won't go there, but also that he cares about conservation, architecture and the environment. I have never picked up anything about a sense of social justice and a levelling between the rich and the poor. Might be a bit hypocritical if he was very approving of that.

These are people who are born to rule us, and we have no say about it other than via our biased democratic process, but yet we can't know their views. While they don't enact laws or policies, I am sure just a hint  'from the palace' carries great weight.

So over to you Sarah Ferguson of our ABC's 7.30. Why couldn't you give William and Kate a grilling while they were here. Ah, they weren't available for an interview.

24 comments:

  1. I hope that by the time Georgie Porgie comes into power it will be an irrelevance here. But am not holding my breath. And I understand their celebrity status no more than that of other celebrities. I tend to be a respecter/admirer not of position but of individuals. And sniggered a bit at reports of just how hard William and his bride worked while over here. A gruelling schedule perhaps - but not work as I know it.

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    1. PS: A local columnist summed it up nicely for me today...'I did but see them passing by, and will be indifferent to them until I die'.

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    2. EC, of course they worked hard. I saw Kate with a shovel once and I saw her holding her baby.

      Love the quote.

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  2. The royals are quite irrelevant to me. However I did read somewhere when they first stepped foot here that the idea of retaining our monarchy status had increased lately. We are becoming more and more conservative. Blergh.

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    1. I fear it is so Fen. There is probably a higher percentage of people in England who would like to be rid of them.

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  3. I don't know if you have been following the controversy about the release of 27 letters Charles wrote to Labour (UK) government ministers in 2004-2005. The UK government is resisting their release on the basis that the monarch must be believed to be politically neutral, so people should not find out the truth about whatever Charles did whilst heir-apparent. Bizarre!

    Actually, we might as well make Packer and Murdoch joint hereditary monarchs, given the influence they peddle in any event (Oh, hang on, Rupert is a US citizen isn't he? What about Lachlan then?) Maybe throw Gina in on rotation (which would have the added piquancy that she couldn't disinherit her eldest child John in that role at least).

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    1. Marcellous, I missed that. For once I would side with the government and they stay confidential until Charles' death of the 30 year rule, or their equivalent. No because of perceptions of neutrality, but if things like that are released, nothing will ever be communicated again.

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  4. William was balder than I thought he'd be, apart from that I thought their visit went well. Kate appeared a lot more relaxed than Diana when she was here and I liked most of her dresses too. Prince George querulous? cut him some slack Andrew, he's a baby and babies get cranky when routines are disrupted, much as anybody else does. Perhaps he just wanted to get down and crawl around instead of being shown off to hundreds of people whose faces he doesn't recognise.

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    1. River, George was probably a bit unsettled being in his mother's arms, rather than those of his nanny who he is probably much more familiar with.

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  5. I find it inconceivable that in two hundred years from now Australia, whatever its population makeup then, would remain sanguine at having a foreign head of state.

    King George VI was still the reigning monarch at my birth and I was two and a half when he died. I still have memories of his photographs on school walls and the like but no memory of him as King.

    The vast majority of Australians alive today have known no monarch and Head of State of Australia than Queen Elizabeth 11. Given the extraordinary stability simply from the length of her reign and that apart from the Whitlam dismissal and the expense of periodic royal tours she otherwise has little direct impact on the lives of Australians it is not surprising that many see no reason to change from this monarchical system. This is especially so in view of the distaste that many Australians have with performance and ethics of our elected politicians.

    Clearly if Charles does become King there is no possibility of him reigning for anything like the length of his mother's rule. It is most likely when eventually Elizabeth is no longer Queen there will be two or more comparatively short reigns to follow.

    Once Elizabeth has gone I expect that Republican sentiments will increase. Whatever follows the British monarchy I can only believe that one day Australia will install some manner of Australian Head of State.

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    1. Terrific piece of writing Victor. I wonder if the Queen ever will abdicate or stay until death or ill health.

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  6. Hello Andrew:

    Perhaps unsurprisingly we have absolutely no interest whatsoever in the British Royal Family or, indeed, any other.

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    1. JayLa, that is unless you are dining with Euro royals.

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    2. True!! An exception must be made for Norway!!

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  7. Royals are okay for pomp and ceremonial tradition in Britain but we don't need them nor do we need the union Jack on our flag.

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    1. Diane, without much conviction, the Union Jack does represent where Australia came from, oh, but not the black fellah.

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  8. The most common justification I see is that they're really good for tourism...

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    1. Mitchell, might that be simple transfer of money from other countries to England? I can't see anything in that for Australia. In fact we have to pay for them to visit us.

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  9. Andrew, In my opinion British Royalty is only a fashion and tradition. In GB they can be celebrities but in Australia is so strange.

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    1. Gosia, it is our heritage, but not relevant now.

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  10. Did the royals come to Australia? I work in the centre of Melbourne and did not see hide nor hair of the royals or their extensive entourage all week. Invisible, I tell you!

    Which suits me just fine. Australia became an independent nation on 1/1/1901 so we are mature enough now for our own head of state. The fear is that if we lose the monarchy, we risk getting some hideous presidential system where the head of state is actually a politician; a person who can veto the democratically elected parliament's legislation.

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    1. Hels, you spell out precisely why I am not at the barricades pressing the republican cause. The alternative to a benign king or queen could be just so awful.

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  11. What Victor said! I have no problem with the royal family.. can the world have too many queens :)

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    1. Grace, if you go out to a dance club, you quickly conclude the world can have too many queens.

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