Monday, March 12, 2012

Two peoples

I think Australia and perhaps even the world must be divided into two groups. There are those who are not entitled to who park in disabled parking bays and those who would not dream of it. I am sure my blog mates would not even consider parking in a disabled person's car parking space if they were not disabled and did not have the appropriate sticker or pass. Many do though. A tale is here.


  1. Hello Andrew:
    We fear that it is much the same here in Budapest and are appalled at the numbers of car owners who, looking from our windows down into the street, appear to be remarkably fit, active, agile and healthy and yet whose dashboards continue to display 'disabled' badges thus excusing them from paying for street parking.

  2. If I see someone parking in such a spot, and they do not have a permit to do so or it is obvious they are not the one who needs a permit to park in a handicapped spot, I take out my cell phone and call the police to come ticket them. I stand behind the car so they can't leave until the police get there.

  3. Ha ha. Funny you should divide the world thus, and not into men and women, socialists and capitalists, Christians and non Christians etc

    But I have acutally thought about it a lot. There are many law-abiding citizens, who would never in their wildest dreams carry a gun, drink and drive, beat their children or do anything patently illegal.

    And yet.. and yet... they might comfortably ignore conventions that are not quite legal requirements, as you have described. Parking in a handicapped spot seems to be "just for a moment" and "noone else really needs it anyhow". Swimming outside the flags is never a problem because the person is a strong swimmer and the flags are "really only for weaker swimmers". Paying for a ticket on the tram seems to be an Optional Extra.

    I don't think we need more vigorous legislation. But I do think some people aren't being well socialised by their parents.

  4. This issue doesn't concern me because I don't drive, but if I did, I wouldn't use the disabled spots. I'd be happy enough parking away from the building and walking those extra metres.

  5. Hey Andrew, I have a permit and sometimes I really need it and sometimes I don't. I rarely take the space unless I have the need that day. Yesterday I forgot to take my permit with me when I was driving someone else's car. I passed the shop I wanted to go to, the two vacant disabled spaces across the road, and drove up to the parking lot that was about 150yards away...too far for me even on a good day... Then using my walking stick (which I had fortunately not forgotten) I walked back to the shop and then back to the car. Today I am in so much pain that I will probably spend 90% of the day in bed. Yesterday if I had taken a disabled parking spot I would have walked to the shop unaided and seemingly ok.

    I guess the moral of my comment is that what you see is not always what you get. Like the woman whose blog you referred to, you can't always see my disability.

    Cheers mate and thanks for contributing to enlightening people.

  6. I reckon people that don't have disabled parking permits and park in disabled parking bays should be towed away and fined heavily that'll fix 'em :-).

  7. The idea of parking in a disabled bay and not being disabled feels particularly horrible to me. And the story you tell is ghastly.

  8. I live in both worlds. In my personal life I have no disabled sticker and I wouldn't dream of parking in a disabled parking spot. In my work life and my work car I have a disabled sticker. Whilst I don't always park in the disabled spots, it does depend on which client I have in the car with me. If they have walkers or sticks and struggle, then I will seek them out. If it's my more able bodied clients then no, they can bloody well walk!!

  9. JayLa, you do have to be careful about judging wellness by appearance, but like everywhere, I expect it is abused in Budapest.

    Max, waiting for a response from our police for such a matter would leave you either frozen or sunburnt. It sounds like your system is taken seriously at least.

    Hels, I agree, poor socialisation and we don't need new laws willy nilly. Just the existing ones enforced would do. Your examples are summarised by, the rules are for someone else.

    River, these would be the same people who park in bus stops, in fact anywhere and anytime. They just don't care.

    Displaced, that is quite true. While I may think the easy to obtain disabled permit needs some closer scrutiny, it is not for me to judge someone's wellness. Hope you are feeling a bit better now.

    Windsmoke, I'm with you. Tow 'em and fine 'em.

    Elisabeth, invariably the excuse will be, I was only going to be a minute. Not a consolation to the disabled person who has to walk a long distance.

    Fen, fair enough. Mother has one, which I have used many times when she has been with me.

  10. Thank-ypu Andrew for cross posting, like displaced, there are some good days for me and some bad days, and not knowing what lay ahead for the day, I didn't really have much of a choice, but to plan for the worst.
    I too, avoiod parking in disabled areas, when I'm having a 'good' day or when I know that the activities I'm about to partake in won't cripple me.
    Unfortuntaly I'm finding more and more, for the convenience of the individual, some people choose to willinging park in disabled spots, simply to make their life easier, regardless of the fact that they may inconvenience someelse who actually needs these spots.
    The verbal abuse I sustained that day, lived in my nerve ends for 2-3 days afterwards. It's hard to describe the feeling.
    Thank-yoou once again Andrew for cross posting

  11. Heather, it is interesting that both you and Displaced don't park in disabled places if you are feeling fit. I think it is actually a given right if you have a pass. But as I said earlier, the pass system does need to be tightened up. Old and slow does not mean you are entitled to a pass.

  12. In a variation of this a street not far from mine regularly is totally occupied during business hours on weekdays by cars displaying disabled stickers which exempts the parker from paying the applicable fee for those spots (which are not designated 'disabled' parking spaces). That street just happens to be one block from a major railway station.

    Some of the parkers no doubt are entitled to use the stickers but I have long suspected that many of the parkers are not the sticker holders but are using someone else's sticker to get free parking whilst they go to work. Am I being too cynical?

  13. You would be correct Victor. Some would belong to someone else and some issued that never should have been. You could have had one for your late mother and probably just renewed it each year.

  14. A good indicator to the user actually being entitled to a disabled sticker..... is......
    If attached to the windscreen, the driver will generally be the one affected and entitled.

    If floating loose on the dash or just 'stuck' between the dash and screen... the 90% of the time not entitled. see it so often.

    Watch when people pull into disabled parking, they reach over into the glove box, fish out the permit and turf it on the dashboard. DEAD GIVE AWAY

  15. I am one of the ten per cent then. Mother has a plastic pass which she carries with her and puts it on the dash of whatever car she is being transported in. It isn't something I watch for, but I can't remember seeing anyone using a space who didn't look entitled, in spite of knowing that just because someone looks ok, it doesn't mean that they don't need a pass. Doctors are the virtual issuers of the pass, so I think a lot of responsibility must go to them.