Monday, September 21, 2009

Violence on our streets

I was going somewhere with this post I suppose. I never quite got there and I seem to have lost the point that I was going to make.

From the Herald Sun.

Crackdown on 'brats' needed

UPDATE 4.55pm: TOUGH penalties for the "brats" behind street violence are warranted as three cops were bashed, a top cop says.

QBH brawl ringleader locked up

A THUG involved in a string of attacks, including a vicious brawl at the QBH club, has been sentenced to 18 months in a Youth Justice Centre.

60 comment(s)


  1. Anonymous9:07 am

    Sounds like Oxford Street every Friday and Saturday night. Police need to get off their butts and out onto the streets doing the beat like in the old days. And yes there needs to be a zero tolerence for all violent crimes with automatic lockup for minimum of say two to three years in jail. Underage offenders to be treated as adults when they perpetrate a crime. Just stop all the pussyfooting around done by our so called expert graduate criminologists. (they are airheads and don't know what goes on in the real world outside their office).

  2. They just don't have the numbers of police anywhere in Australia to enforce zero tolerance. I think walking around and drinking on the streets is illegal, yet you see it all the time. The worst that happens is they told to tip it out. Sooner or later it will become a real political issue.

  3. The point is... there are absolute raving loonies out there and I do not think that the police know what to do with them any more. Man power is an issue. And why this all occurs is because the perpetrators know their rights and know how to get away.
    I have thought about it alot, especially when I am on the rceiving end of victims in the emergency room. I know we do not have the adequate amount of Vic Pol out there, so could the community play a role in sorting out the asshats? A group, a large one, of good people who also know their rights and can make their presence known and felt. I don't know, there has to be SOMETHING people can do.
    It is scary. The disrespect shown to each other is disgusting!

  4. Personally I think they should just machine gun the whole lot of 'em. Didn't like kids when I was one. Can't stand 'em even less now.

  5. Anonymous7:43 pm

    From anecdotal evidence it seems to me that Melbourne is becoming an increasily violent city. And alcohol is often cited as the cause. I can't help thinking there are other reasons though. Perhaps it's social or cultural. Living in Japan where alcohol is a major and I mean MAJOR social lubricant, you rarely see people misbehaving, let alone engaging in violence; even when they're completely off their tits. Public drinking is acceptable here - you can drink on trains, for example. Yet I have never felt threatened in any way by drunk men (it's usually men) and I don't know anyone who has. People tell me things are a bit different in Tokyo but even so, there aren't many reports in the media of drunken violence. It's interesting. There must be a reason why Japanese people can control their behaviour when they're completely drunk and Australians can't seem to. Vik.

  6. Anonymous9:42 pm

    Simple - why do we need huge booze barns, open till 6am, spilling out of it, violent people into the strets? - surely, restricting hours might help - wonder why it hasnt been done?
    Conversations with apprentices at TAFE gave me this - a lot of it is ethnic based turf wars, lots of amphetamines, especially ice, on top of the booze, and no real consequences if they get caught.
    Sociology might give a better explanation, but its a bit of a worry that these yobs are the future of our country.

  7. Cazzie, I don't believe in vigilante forces. There should be more police, like there are in most other western countries.

    I agree with you Brian. How is the neighbour problem going?

    Vik, you are right and interesting input, but why is it so? What has gone wrong here?

    Michael, drugs and booze do not mix well at all. I cannot see the need for late night happenings. Authorities argue that they are responding to late night happenings. But why have authorities allowed late night stuff? Money.

  8. Anonymous1:03 pm

    'They just don't have the numbers of police anywhere in Australia to enforce zero tolerance.'

    Yet on a Saturday morning at 8.30am they can have twenty police officers in riot gear with two sniffer dogs sweeping both sides of Oxford Street simultaneously, till 11am searching all and sundry.

    I am still a believer of old fashioned policing - at least back then you were scared of the police and respected them and the crims of the day.

  9. Seems wrong. I suggest that it is a lot easier to find staff for dayshift.