Wednesday, August 19, 2009

Delicate Matter and the Indian Students

Is it delicate? Some would say I am being racist so I suppose it is a delicate matter. I would call it spelling out the bleeding obvious. Have you noticed the preponderance of overseas born immigrants committing violent crimes in Melbourne?

I would like to see zero population growth for Australia. There are enough people here already enacting extreme destruction to our country. We don't need any more. Of course the population won't replace itself, so some immigration and refugees are necessary, but it is all about numbers.

The government allows too many people, especially refugees from one country to arrive in a short period. Because of the sheer numbers, they are not given the services and support that they ought to receive and it all gets very messy. This is especially important when you are talking about people who may have spent many years in refugee camps. A camp may be all some of the youngers have known. Yet, they are dumped here and naturally congregate together and without having grown up in our culture, do not adjust well and they will not adjust well while they only live among and associate with their own.

If we take refugees, we have a responsibility to them, one that cannot be fulfilled when there are such overwhelming numbers. We are doing neither them nor us any favours.

As for skilled immigration, what a joke that has become. Can you buy a skilled immigrant visa now? I reckon so. It is the usual government and large business ploy of keeping the working class in their place by ensuring there is cheap labour available.

I suppose it was in the nineteen nineties or late eighties that I really noticed the number of overseas students in Melbourne, mostly from Asian countries. I felt a little pride in our country educating the foreign born. This is good. We have a reasonable education system, prestigious universities that the overseas students will be proud to have attended and will impress their prospective employers back in the own country.

By 2000, there seemed to be an awful lot overseas Asian students. They seemed to fit into Australian society well enough and they certainly livened up our city and some suburbs.

But then came the Indian students, in overwhelming numbers. Take a look around your train or tram tomorrow and visually remove every suspected overseas student, and you would perhaps remove a quarter to a third of the passengers. The overseas students have certainly contributed to overcrowding of public transport. Did anyone sit down and think about how all these students might get around the larger city?

It has been become increasingly clear that it is not about education per se, but about more immigration. Another residency rort, a backdoor way of staying in the country. The worst aspect is that it was obvious to all an sundry and yet our government allows it to continue with private colleges springing up in any broom cupboard that could be found. Pay enough and it comes with a guaranteed residency.

Our prestigious universities have become money hungry. No free education for Australian citizens. You just buy yourself a place, Australian or foreigner.

I recall a comment on a post a long time ago by a student, in reference to some fellow Chinese students. The comment was along the lines of 'how can they possibly be getting any education when they don't even come close to speaking or understanding English'. Simple, they are buying their degrees by passing by whatever means. The universities have a financial interest in making sure they pass. This is not the education we should be giving overseas students.

Cut immigration and cut the number of foreign students and turn both back into something to be appreciated. I am not arguing against immigration or educating foreign students, just about numbers and the numbers of both are way too high.


  1. Anonymous9:58 am

    Your right - it is a delicate matter, but one that needs sorting out. The Asian/Indian students are now a cash cow to prop up an increasingly badly funded education system. But that's just one of the many issues we face in the years ahead - they say we get the government we deserve, but hey, this is ludicrous. So many things need to be done, yet they persist in the same old name calling, point scoring games. Spin reigns supreme. Doesn't give me much faith in our prospects for the years ahead...I wonder if our grandchildren will curse our memory for what we have allowed to happen.
    One thing I have wondered about - the "experts" who gave us the GFC are still being asked their opinion on what to do to solve the GFC - feel like I am trapped in a Gilbert and Sullivan opera, and it isn't one of the funny ones...

  2. Michael, I certainly see your point about GFC. Suddenly companies are making large profits again after their taxpayer bail outs. Bonuses will be next.

  3. This morning's news of the intended government clampdown on rogue schools has come 20 years too late.

    I treasure the 1993 visual memory of a line of washing strung along a balcony at the very posh Kingstoun building on St.Kilda Road - knowing full well it would be an apartment bought for Taylor's College students by a rich HongKong daddy.
    I am sure some Kingstoun Body Corp committee members are still in therapy over the fuss it must have caused.
    It is not the foreign-ness of the students we mind, but it is the sloppy admin by our government, that is causing the issues around them.
    Decades ago there was 'The Colombo Plan' which was supposed to educate Indians who were then supposed to return and improve India.
    I think Colombo has a different name now, and those who returned are in BMW's driving past the very poor Indians.

  4. OMG FG, washing on a balcony. It has caused ructions here too.

    I know of the Colombo plan but not much detail. It sounded good to me and I know some educated by it became very successful and their connection back to Australia useful to both them and Australia in the future.

  5. "Pay enough and it comes with a guaranteed residency"..yes, you hit a few nails on the head here Andrew.
    I was offered bribes to write a legal document for a Non Australian person to obtain a Security Officer License here in Melbourne...which would have ultimately saved his butt from being sent back to his place of origin. It was only because they knew I am a registered nurse.
    I had to first of all explain that I would not under any circumstances do such a thing for money. That is illegal.
    The requirement of my writing a little letter on this document was that I know this person for no less than 12 months... he had only been on our soil for 6mths. So I said no to this also.
    Like I said to them, what if you get mad, loose the plot and kill someone? As a registered nurse, I could not stand up in court and say that I gave such a good reference to someone who I did not know for more than 12 months... I would loose my job.
    Stupid thing is, this person just did not GET it.
    And so, someone else would have been paid off to do this for this person..and now they are staying here longer...not working. Hrumph!

  6. A classic example Cazzie. I have been offered money to marry someone from overseas a few years ago.