Friday, January 11, 2019

Walls

A wall separates R and myself when we sleep, a less than soundproof wall. At least if he is snoring, he is alive. It's when I don't hear him snoring I worry.

There is the very old Great Wall of China, and the more recent Hadrians Wall in England. There was a wall in Berlin, dividing the city between East and West Germany. Walls are to divide things, or to keep people in or out.

Australia doesn't have border walls. We are an island and our borders fiercely protected by our conservative government against refugee boat people. While I am quite open to discussing our refugee intake, I do believe that our island border needs to be secure. We know it is not. Drugs, people, all sorts of things come into Australia via our insecure ocean border. We need to control who and what comes into Australia.

The absolutely appalling President of the US who I hope I see in gaol one day, does have a point about his wall though. It is not unreasonable for the United States to have a secure border at its southern boundary. In fact the effort that is put into policing its northern border with Canada seems like a absolute joke. No cheap workers flooding in from Canada, I suppose, just........what? I don't think those seeking a better life.


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  1. I do hope you get your wish about the trumpster. I really hope it.

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    1. EC, I doubt it will happen, but wouldn't it be so good.

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  2. I have seen Hadrian's wall (or what is left) and of course the Berlin wall both thanks to Expat. It's a beautiful landscape where the Hadrian wall is and you only see cows and tourists ! and sheep I guess !
    The crazy president should be locked in in a mad house ! behind iron walls !

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    1. Gattina, yes, we have seen Hadrians Wall ourselves, but I think we will see it again on our Expat tour. Could Trumpet be elected again? Yes!

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  3. Remember when the Berlin Wall was destroyed in 1989? Everyone was crying with joy, even though it was too late for the families that had been broken up and the teenagers who had been shot clambering over the top. At that time, I truly believed that another destructive wall would never be built again. Wrong :(

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    1. Hels, who could forget the Berlin Wall, well anyone our ages. Must be time for a song, West of the Wall.

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  4. The only wall they need is around #45, prison walls preferably. It's a fact that most of the drugs that get into the US enter through ports of entry and a much higher % of crime is carried out by US citizens. The billions he wants the American people to cough up could be well better spent.

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    1. Grace, #45 should probably be in prison now. Regardless of what you say, and no doubt you are correct, I still think it is reasonable to have control of your country's borders.

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  5. Andrew, We're having a spate of Boat people arriving on our (U.K) South Coast these last few weeks due to some calm Channel tides.
    But what we sometimes find amazing is that these people from The Middle East have dangerously navigated their backbreaking risk taking journeys through many European countries just to reach our shores. I wonder why. What are they expecting from us?

    I imagine that many of your Boat people are mostly South East Asians.

    Talking of walls, I'm such a light sleeper I could never get a proper night's sleep if someone is sharing my bed.
    It's a good thing I made that new spare room last Summer.

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    1. Dee, with all respect to the home of my ancestors, they do travel through some rather civilised places to get to Britain. Who knows? Is it easier to start a life there? Is it because they may already have some English skills?

      Most of our boat people were from the Middle East and some from Sri Lanka. The come via Indonesia where as a fellow Muslim country, they can easily enter.

      I used to struggle when I was young to actual sleep with anyone. Now I would find it impossible.

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  6. Walls. Well, let's see. The People screaming about Walls being so terrible, are in fact the same politicians who have Walls around their estates and detailed, armed guards!
    I lived in West Berlin during the Cold War. That was not a Wall to keep people out, but to keep people in. Terrible.
    I do have chunks of that Wall, that I chipped away after the Fall of the Wall!
    Unfortunately besides Human Trafficking at our Southern Border, we also have Drugs, and yes, there have been people from the Middle East trying to enter illegally, even though they are on watch lists.
    Murderers have crossed, and many innocent American's killed.
    Not a fan of the current President, but find the Hypocrisy of Nancy Pelosi and Chuck Schumer laughable! Both are on film supporting a Southern Border Wall in 2009, when Obama wanted one.
    I have seen Hadrian's Wall as well. Beautiful Country there.

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    1. Maribeth, I think you have accidentally swallowed a bit of Trump's Koolaid about democrats and the wall (then a fence) in earlier years. See this from the Boston Globe:

      For Democrats who generally support relaxed rules that offer a path to citizenship for immigrants, the 2006 law was seen as the better of two evils. The House had recently passed legislation immigration advocates viewed as draconian because it would make any undocumented immigrant a felon.

      By comparison, the border fence didn’t seem so bad. Moreover, immigration reform advocates were beaten down after a wider overhaul had stalled.

      “It didn’t have anywhere near the gravity of harm,” recalled Angela Kelley, who in 2006 was the legislative director for the National Immigration Forum. “It was hard to vote against it because who is going to vote against a secure fence? And it was benign compared with what was out there.”

      The law flew through the Senate with a vote of 80 to 19. (One senator, Edward Kennedy of Massachusetts, was not present. John Kerry, the state’s other senator, voted against it.) In the House, the measure passed 283 to 138, with 64 Democrats supporting it. (The Massachusetts delegation was split.) From there it went to then-President George W. Bush, who signed it 12 days before the 2006 mid-term elections.

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    2. Maribeth, I will stick to Hadrian's Wall (odd that it has an apostrophe when most place names don't) after input from Marcellous. R's ex brother in law sent me back a piece of Hadrian's Wall some years ago. On our last visit, I returned it as a felt bad about what was a flippant remark being acted on. Berlin Wall is quite different, though it will be historical one day, perhaps already is.

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    3. Marcellous to the rescue with FACTS. So legislation for the building of a fence/wall became law in 2006, yet it wasn't done.

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    4. Not sure about that, Andrew. Obama claimed he'd finished something more like a fence in 2009.
      I think the legislation authorised rather than required the construction: see https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Secure_Fence_Act_of_2006. US political distribution of power different from Australian, as you know.

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    5. There was some interesting reading at Wikipedia. Impact on wildlife, electronic walls rather than physical.

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  7. I firmly believe that if there is something wrong with your country stay home and try and fix it but we don't have much wrong with our home land but the people that live there must change things otherwise they will take their problems with them running away does not alway fix the problem.
    Merle........

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    1. Merle, you are absolutely correct about running away, but sometimes things can be just be too intolerable.

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  8. I'm not a fan of Trump's tactics at all, but I do think there needs to be some sort of border security/fence in place.

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    1. River, it sounds perfectly normal to me for a country to have secure borders. While there is much else at play, keeping it simple makes it quite obvious to me.

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  9. The government shutdown over the wall is ridiculous and hurting so many people. The democrats fighing Trump have all at one point endorsed wall building. So I guess they're fighting it this time because its Trump who wants it. I don't know. My neighbor has been furloughed without pay from her government job. National parks were stupidly allowed to remain open but not staffed, so low lifes, particularly those inclined to off road vehicle use, are trashing them. Anyhow, we don't know how it will end. We need grown ups in government.

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    1. So that is money your neighbour has lost and will never get back. Bad news about the parks too. I guess someone will have to blink sooner or later.

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