Monday, June 11, 2018

Maybe a bloke would be a better Minister for Women

"Damn it. I am pregnant. That means I have to take a day off work to get rid of it. Maybe the clinic is open Saturday morning? I will check the website".

Now, do you know a woman who would think like that? I certainly don't. No doubt for some it is an easier decision than for others. But once the decision is made, should such women be harassed by people on the street who gather around a clinic to convince women of their evilness of seeking  an abortion?

The Victorian government said no and imposed an exclusion zone for anti abortion protesters at clinics. After the change to the abortion laws in Ireland are enacted, it may need to do the same. The Australian state of New South Wales had just passed legislation to enact an exclusion zone and Queensland will soon follow. The NSW bill passed parliament with overwhelming support, but there were two surprising votes against the bill. One vote against was by the Minister for Women and another was by a former Minister for Women. Good to know the Premier of NSW, Our Glad Berejiklian, voted for the bill, as did the Deputy Premier.

The NSW Minister for Women who voted against the exclusion zone was Tanya Davies. I know nothing about her, but shame shame shame. Do I take it from her no vote that she is pro women who are considering an abortion deserve to be harassed on their way to a clinic?


The former Minister for Women Pru Goward is well known to me. She has been in NSW state politics for some time and has held various ministerial roles. She was also the Australian Federal Sex Discrimination Commissioner and the Commissioner Responsible for Age Discrimination with the Human Rights and Equal Opportunity Commission. Yet, she voted against the bill. Mein Gott. I had no idea that she is mother of the Australian model Kate Fischer. (The link to Kate well worth a skim through read if you like celebrity gossip. Drink driving, partner assault, now embraced Judaism.)


I know Pru Goward best from when she a feisty television current affairs interviewer for our ABC. She was just terrific, but now I am thinking did her political bias show back then, as she is now a Liberal (conservative) Party member and and her time in current affairs coincided with a Labor government. Whatever. She voted against an exclusion zone at abortion clinics and so she must also be for women being harassed as they are trying to make a monumental decision with the help of professionals within the clinic. Pru, it pains me to say this, but I am very disappointed and you disgust me.

28 comments:

  1. We have had a simliar exclusion zone here for some time. Some people have even been charged offences against it. And convicted though the conviction was quashed. The convicted men were 'just praying'.
    Sigh.

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    1. EC, good to know you have exclusion zones. Not so good that prosecutions failed but eventually the harassment will stop.

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  2. Crikey Andrew .... I was real worried there for a bit, mate. I read those first 2 sentences and nearly choked on my chicken wing.

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    1. Charlie, I can think of a few guys I would futilely like to try to make babies with, but alas, it is not to be. I don't like children much anyway.

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  3. How you think is up to you and I don't think you have the right to tell others how to think and to stand outside a clinic and upset someone who has made a decision about their own life when you do not know the reasons is very wrong.
    Merle..........

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    1. Nicely said Merle. I can understand men trying to control what women do, but not so much women trying to control what women do.

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  4. Peaceful protest is one thing but harassment is unacceptable. Male or female the LNP can’t seem to get gender issues right. 1950s anyone?

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    1. Victor, I am not sure what you are talking about with other gender issues? Local or that ugly person in the state to your north?

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  5. Termination is the most harrowing decision any woman can ever have to make, and the last thing they need are a bunch of idiots shouting at them. I hope prosecutions follow.

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    1. Cro, for most women it would be as you describe. Although predominantly Catholic, I would hope France is a little more enlightened.

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  6. Certainly don't think others should be anywhere near a clinic - they should stay out of it totally.

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    1. Margaret, they know best and so must harass. They don't know best, and certainly the blokes don't have a clue.

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  7. Why would anyone vote AGAINST an exclusion zone?

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    1. River, I don't know why these two women voted against the exclusion zone. It seems a very strange thing to me. Perhaps I should have researched more about their reasons, but I don't do in depth.

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  8. I worked for many years in a contraception-abortion-sterilisation clinic. The women (and their mothers or husbands) faced horror parades twice a week, with jeering and photo-taking of every women.

    The protesters had no idea what service the patients were there for, so they treated every single woman with derision. The doctors, nurses and counsellors used to go into the main street, cover the patients' heads with raincoats and led them into through the clinic gate.

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    1. Just horrible, Hels. Good to have a personal account of the way women were treated. No doubt staff suffered too.

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  9. They are both disgusting Andrew, sometimes people have to walk the walk to realise the reality!

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    1. Grace, so true. Absolutely no empathy at all.

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  10. I don't know either of them, but as women they should be voting for! Disappointing...

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    1. Sami, it is just really hard to imagine their reasons.

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  11. Prime Minister Abbott was minister for women. That did not work out well.

    The article I read about Pru Goward's vote implied there was some technical reason for he voting no. Why they could not resolve that technical issue I don't know.

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    1. Hey Panther. Abbott being Minister for Women was laughable. A technical reason huh. Some things are bigger than technical.

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  12. Perhaps they got paid to vote NO, so it wasn't a landslide win.

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    1. River, you are even more cynical than I am.

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  13. Now when I go to the spay neuter clinic, I pass some guy, always a guy, trying to involve themselves in things that affect women, he stands along the freeway holding a big American flag and an anti abortion sign. I can't read it, because I'm going 65 in heavy traffic. People ignore him because he looks crazy and possibly is. Nobody gives a half crap about babies after they are born to women (and the men who conceive and leave). It's a strange thing, the anti abortionists. I call them pro fetus, not pro life. Let's face it, kids born into poverty, due to incest or rape, often end up in the system for life, or in jail. Not always but I'd say more often than not. Society then supports them and most pro fetus people do not support those programs. I see it as I see cat overpopulation. When there are too many cats, disease spreads, filth spreads, fighting increases as crowding increases, starvation is common and abuse by humans of those unlucky cats increases. Same when there are too many people.

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  14. That seems to be quite a good analogy, Strayer. Yes, pro life is one of those terms that are invented so that people can say, how can you be against pro life?

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  15. In my opinion all people who are against abortion and talk about «pro life» make me «laugh» !! Who at the end pays the bill ?? the unwanted children ! The pro life becomes a pro hell. They are given away (if they are lucky) neglected,starved,beaten to death, thron out of a window on the 5th floo, abused etc. you can read that every day in the Newspapers or ask social workers. Therefore it is evident to leave the decision of an abortion to the women !! Not even the government can force you to love your unwanted child !!

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    1. Gattina, so often it is a very sad fact of women and men having unwanted children that they do have rather bad lives. Even wanted children have bad lives at times. When men can bear children and raise them to adulthood, perhaps then they can tell women what is good for them.

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