Thursday, May 24, 2018

Driving me mad

Facebook has a setting to see most recent posts, but it will never come on by default. You always have to switch to the setting. I can almost deal with that but it is not how I would like FB to be, that is always newest posts first. Apparently FB judges what you should see by algorithms. Algorithms sound like scary stuffs, built to control what we see.

I love Gmail on my desktop, but not on my phone and tablet. In desktop mode you can turn off the silly and unreliable groupings of conversations that Gmail does on phones and tablets, which you cannot turn off. I hate grouped conversations. Again, I just want emails to arrive in order of when they are sent. I am guessing it is again about algorithms.

Twitter was once so simple, but it has gone down the same path and shows you what it thinks you want to see, and it is nearly always wrong. I just want to see Tweets in the order of their arrival. Is that so wrong or so hard? Algorithms at work? Algorithms that don't work well for my purpose.

Now Instagram has gone down the same path. I hate it.

Apparently I am the product, not the customer, so I have no say in this but it really is rubbish and not something I would ever pay for, and I would feel negativity to any company whose ads I saw on such sites.

Screw the algorithms and phewy on the lot of them. 




31 comments:

  1. Your final sentence sums it up well.

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    1. EC, it was succinct.

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  2. Anonymous6:51 am

    Or busily typing away and the spell checker changes a correctly typed word because its tiny mind has never heard of it. Then you type a simple word and transpose two letters by mistake and it won't correct it. Look at it this way, the device is only as smart as it programmers and most of them aren't nearly as clever as they think they are. Then I go through the rest of the day smiling. - Ian

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    1. Yep Ian, my world. Not a problem on my desktop, but of late my phone has been auto correcting, without my approval.

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  3. I am constantly followed round the net by whatever I've just looked at on ebay even though I clear everything before leaving ebay. I retaliate by dumping every Google ad that turns up which doesn't do any good because they know they have my attention.

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    1. Jah Teh, yes, I think it happens to everyone. We are still getting ads for Weber barbeques and Bosch dishwashers. What even you search for in Google, ads will appear for that item.

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  4. I only read what catches my eye most stuff I ignore, if I'm busy I have a break from the computer there is so much stuff to wade through these days.
    Merle...............

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    1. Merle, yes, computers and the internet can take up an awful lot of your time. You have to keep control.

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  5. I limit myself to facebook, and have very few 'friends'. I like it, now that most young women have stopped putting-up pouting selfies. Or maybe I just 'unfriended' them all.

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    1. Cro, just been looking at R's English niece's selfies in Benidorm. I am sure I would loathe that place.

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  6. Don't use FB much at all, and when I do don't like the way things are in there...Twitter feel the same as you along with Instagram.
    Pity those 3 wouldn't leave things alone instead of repeating and so on.

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    1. Margaret, I guess it about maximising the value of these things to the companies and not about our convenience. I did as Snoskred suggested below with FB, and I am happier with that.

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  7. Did you know the word Algorithms isn't even in the dictionaries? It's as fake as Farcebook and that other twitterfest thingy.

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    1. River, perhaps you need a new dictionary to replace your 30 year old one. I doubt the word is any of mine either. I'm afraid I no longer use a paper dictionary, but I did like them.

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    2. I forgot to check my new dictionaries, the word is in there:" a procedure for solving a problem in mathematics or computing."

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  8. You can install an extension for Facebook called "fb purity" which enables YOU to be in charge of what you see and in what order. It also allows you to switch most recent to be on permanently.

    With Twitter, my advice is bookmark the profiles you want to follow, then open them in new tabs.

    Gmail you can put in widgets if you are using an android phone which will show you just the most recent messages, no conversations. I am not sure with iPhone but having just achieved the task of upgrading both my parents to new ones (a five month battle which I FINALLY WON) I am about to try and set them up with gmail later on today, if you use iPhone let me know and I will advise what I worked out.

    Anything on a mobile or tablet, you can ask to receive it in desktop mode if you prefer that. :)

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    1. Snoskred, you are such a useful person to know. I've just installed the FB extension. I think we have the same phones, Samsung Galaxy 8. I normally only read Twitter on my phone, and if I see a truncated incomplete tweet direct to my phone and I want to see the rest of it, it can be hard to find. Your idea is not bad to follow up later on the desktop, or I suppose I could do it on the phone using the browser. I'll have a look at widgets for Gmail. I do already receive notification of email.

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  9. I totally agree with you! I especially hate the gmail groupings!

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    1. Jackie, well at least you can turn off the folders is sends email to, personal, social etc.

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  10. Yes, you are the product, we all are, get in line now, stay in line, head down, don't move from the intended path!!!! I grate in disgust when I get wordings from microsoft from this new used computer that I should change my password in shared experiences. I hate that term. Shared experiences with whom? The people you, the computer and geeks behind the algorithms think I should be with? I quit twitter. I just don't care anymore.

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    1. Strayer, that is the plan by them. I am glad we personally have a shared experience, but we were not brought together by any of what I mentioned.

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  11. I hate group conversations too, Andrew. And I find it bothersome that I have to delete all the conversations or keep all the conversations.
    I don't do FB anymore.

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    1. Sandra, constant battle to deal with your inbox and grouped conversations do not help at all.

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  12. I've given up on FB and twitter.

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    1. Marie, so many are. I will keep both because of what they inform me about, but I don't participate really. I used to use FB as a brag book when we were on holidays, with a couple of photos of where we had been each night, but yes, it was bragging, really.

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  13. I dislike these phancy black-magik algorithmicky-jiggery-pokery blasted nonsense things with a passion.

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    1. Jayne, love the term jiggery pokery. That is kind of what it is.

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  14. I don't use Facebook very much and still don't know really how it works but for me it's enough I just have to comment ! The other things I don't like the twitter and instagram, I don't need it. Facebook gets already on my nerves ! But I had to subscribe otherwise I couldn't see my son's page and other friends !

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    1. Gattina, that is why most of us older people use FB, to keep in touch with what family is doing and seeing their photos.

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  15. I hate Facebook with a passion and almost daily think about killing it. There are very few people these days that don't have any social media presence.. to me they are so cool, one day I'm going to be one of them 😀😀

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    1. Yes, young lady. When you are all growed up, you can make your own decisions, but for now you must embrace Facebook.

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