Sunday, April 01, 2018

The Gippslander

It is beyond belief that a once electric train fed by power from overhead wires from Melbourne to Gippsland was changed to diesel electric. That the de-electrification happened under a Labor Government is even worse. The concrete staunchion pads for the wires along the way are still in place. As a teenager, quite a few times I travelled on the old electric Gippsland train. No cooling apart from open windows. No heating aside from chemical reaction foot warmers, that may or may not have been preheated.

Anyway, I am reminded of a question from back then, that seemed to have an obvious answer to me, vertical, but did not really make sense.  If an electric train is travelling at 80km/h in one direction, 50 mph in the old money, and the wind is coming in the precisely opposite direction at 80km/h, 50 miles per hour, in which direction does the smoke from the train engine blow? The young me said vertically, but I am not so sure now and I can't remember what the correct answer was. The same could apply to ships at sea, and I've seen smoke from ships out in the bay going one direction or the other, especially the Spirit of Tasmania ferry.

Is your brain or maths better than mine? If you know the correct answer, make a note of the time and please hold off for a bit and see what other people say.


31 comments:

  1. Electrical train? Smoke from the engine?

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    1. Oh well, it lasted forty minutes. Clearly like me, EC, you were a child victim of the electric train smoke.

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    2. From experience I will give what I believe is to be the answer to your question..
      I recall my station on the open air Gun direction platform on a Large Battleship (K G V)
      In a stern Sea when the Wind is coming from abaft the beamat wind speed of 25 knots(nautical miles per hour) and the ship is also steaming at 25 Knots. I discovered the choking Acrid sulphur fumes entering my lungs was caused by the wind baffles around the Fwd Bridge stalling the wind from forward; thus creating a great wind thrust from the stern sea wind. in other words its bloody difficult to know. Also the only person capable of solving this problem. named BERt died may years ago. The mind boggles oh by the way I have replied to your Easter DATE problem on my Blog ta for now.

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    3. Vest, I am very suspicious of your reply, but I can't quite work it out.

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  2. Oh and I was very late getting to bed last night 2-30. Australia's Cricket qualms continue. How mighty are the fallen.

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    1. Can you stop being so excited about Australia's cricket qualms!!!

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  3. And yet another BTW. The acrid smoke was from the Two *funnels of the KGV (IE *Stacks USA)

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    1. "Acrid" is spot-on. I can still remember that smell decades later.

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    2. Ah yeah, smoke stacks in the US.

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    3. Perhaps Hels you were an early cruiser?

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  4. LOL
    But, seriously.
    Rebuild those damn rail lines!

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    1. Jayne, don't we wish they would. We don't want trains to every tinpot country town, but surely the more important towns, such as Dunolly.

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  5. Doh. Tricked me. Bring back the trains without smoke.

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    1. Diane, I suppose it was worth the effort if I caught you out.

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  6. Oh that is a oldie.
    Merle...........

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    1. Merle, we are of a similar age and we were caught when we were young.

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  7. My brain has taken a rest day today...not unlike any other day, if I must be honest!

    Have a great week, Andrew. :)

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    1. 'Tis allowed Lee. Rest easy and get excited about The Games.

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  8. This is backwards to back off from electric. It's like here, garbage companies don't know what to do, as China will no longer buy US recyclables, citing contamination, that most of its garbage. I go to the recycle center in Albany and people do dump their garbage there, lots of it even though they say you are watched by cameras. We all know we're not being watched. So now the garbage company wants to charge each of us $2 more per month because China won't take our recycling, instead of them actually watching to be sure we don't dump our garbage into the recycling at the center. Well that was long and I almost forgot my point. Oh, wait, I think we will lose the ability to recycle over all this, and everything will go backwards in time, like from electric to diesel, and go to the dump.

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    1. Strayer, the same problem with China has arisen here. The real problem is that unlike Britain, Europe and Japan, we don't sort out recyling down to finer definitions. I remember in England R's relatives took recyling to a centre, and had to put clear glass into one container, green glass into another and brown glass into one more. Our Friend in Japan has to micro sort her recycling before she puts it out for collection. What we put out for recycling is now going to the tip, dump in your speak.

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  9. Sorry I am not good at Maths but I can count money perfectly

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    1. Gosia, do you have some Jewish blood, haha?

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  10. It's an electric train, there is no smoke.

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  11. Unless the engine is on fire....

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    1. As usual, from the left field with a clever comment.

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    2. The Wind blowing the smoke from the funnels into our lungs from the stern forward at 25 Nautical miles per hour. had little opposition from the wind created by the 25 knot speed of the ship. the wind from forward was subdued by wind baffles surrounding the forward superstructure.
      Under normal circumstances That is to say without interference, both wind forces would make the smoke rise vertically. until consumed by other atmospheric forces around at the time.

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  12. I thought as much.

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  13. In order to keep the peace I shall hereby desist in making what may be perceived as derogatory remarks about the poor performance of our struggling Cricket team, Sigh.

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  14. Andrew . It sometimes requires a seasoned nautical mind to unravel my mystic memorabilia.

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  15. Haha! You don't catch us out that way Andrew.. try again 😀😀

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    1. Grace, I thought I could with personal detail and lots of facts. Failed except for one, I think.

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