Wednesday, November 29, 2017

Place names

Chelsea in London is a very expensive, if not the most expensive part of London. Read Marie's latest most interesting post on Sloane Square and Chelsea in London as she continues her Tube line investigations. Chelsea in greater Melbourne was once known as a rough outer seaside suburb. Maybe it is not so rough now, but not too many social climbers aspire to live in Melbourne's Chelsea.

Camberwell is not a highly desirable London suburb, yet our Camberwell in our bible belt is ever so desirable. Pubs are illegal in our Camberwell. If a restaurant wants to serve alcohol, it must go to a council vote of local residents. (this may have changed recently).

I have struggled for years to get the locations of local towns Winchelsea and Whittlesea correct. We drove through Winchelsea on the way to our nephew's wedding, so that is finally sorted in my head. Not so Braybrook and Braeside. Without confidence I say, Braybrook is south and Braeside is north. No, it must be the other way around. Dunno, really.

Then there are our tongue twisting Aboriginal place names and it took me years to get the pronunciation of Wurundjeri Way (say it as it is spelt) correct, and of course I misspell it too and had to Google to get that right.

Oh well, at least we never adopted difficult Welsh place names and don't have to get our tongues around such weird place names such as our found in Wales. John Gray of Wales has twice had local people pronounce the name of the village where he lives, and I am really none the wiser. This is the latest effort for Trelawnyd.

To think, the Welsh language was dying out and some fool government has resurrected it!

23 comments:

  1. Wurundjeri Way was one of the first road names I had to learn to get right after moving to Melbourne so I could direct taxi drivers to my apartment.

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    1. AdRad, I found it so hard for some reason. There is another near the MCG that I still can't grasp.

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  2. I would certainly have problems with Winchelsea/Whittlesea and Braybrook/Braeside.
    Hope your day is pleasant.

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    1. Sandra, no, it was crap, but thanks for asking and I've survived.

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  3. I think just about every late 18th and early 19th century town or suburb name in Australia was named for some beloved place in Britain - Beaconsfield, Richmond, Surrey, Canterbury, Greenwich, St Kilda, Brighton, Camberwell, Windsor, Sandringham, Box Hill etc

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    1. Hels, and it is only natural that they would have been. It hard to just invent names and we had very few people to honour by naming places after them when most places were named.

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  4. My map of Melbourne has Braeside southeast of the city, just a little southeast of Moorabbin Airport, and Braybrook west and a little north, just up from Footscray West.

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    1. River, right. Braybrook then was where we picked up our campervan last year, but the local train station was called Tottenham.

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    2. I saw Tottenham on the map, but didn't know it was a train station. I thought it might be a small race track.

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  5. Sigh.
    And sometimes when we borrow place names from another country we pronounce them differently. Just because we can.

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    1. EC, we do, I know, but I can't think of one.

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  6. In the late 60's I lived and worked in London's Chelsea, it was a very pleasant part of town. Now all of central London is wildly expensive. Crazy.

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    1. Cro, all those Ruskies and Arabs buying up property left right and centre. I've only seen Chelsea from a bus, and it did look very nice.

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  7. Names of towns and suburbs are sometimes hard to find when similar sounding or spelling. Aboriginal names are sometimes hard to know what way to say it - happens to us all the time.

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    1. Margaret, aren't they ever hard to pronounce and spell. New Zealand uses more of their Maori names for places and that is even harder still.

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  8. Oh we have some right corkers here too Andrew! Must admit it does kind of annoy me though when visitors, especially Americans make such a big deal about trying to pronounce them, I mean how hard is it to say Innaloo 😀

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    1. Grace, I suppose you could say iNAHloo. I think it is just in a loo.

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  9. We were in Chelsea in NY Friday.

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    1. Sandra, I just had to check. Yes, we walked the High Line which passes through Chelsea

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  10. I could never pronounce Nacogdoches, Texas.

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    1. Jackie, I would not even try. I always struggled with, still do really, Yosemite.

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  11. More games of Monopoly are required! :)

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    1. Indeed Lee, and we know from the game how to pronounce mall from Pall Mall.

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