Saturday, July 23, 2016

A brief rant with bad words

A majority of Australians support same sex marriage, according to polls. As I have said before, it is not something I am passionate about personally, but I do recognise that it is important to many same sex couples. The ongoing joke between R and myself is when asked by someone, as you have heard before, well when I find someone I want to marry, I may be interested.

So a majority of Australians support same sex marriage, yet our politicians, including our newest Prime Minister elected in his own right, want a plebiscite on same sex marriage. That is a vote where everyone has to attend a poll and must vote with their opinion. This will come at a cost of $160 million and will probably indicate that the majority of Australians want to join the rest of the world with legalising same sex marriage.

No matter what the result of the plebiscite, it is not binding and if a change of policy goes before parliament, it may well be voted down and there will not be same sex marriage in Australia. How will that go down, both here and around the world.

For Christ's sake, just end this nonsense and just fucking well change the law.

Deal done. Those who are against same sex marriage will have forgotten about it come next Federal election, especially as it will be proved that society has not collapsed, just as it hasn't in other places where same sex marriage is allowed. Why is our government wasting so much time on this and why are taxpayers having to spend so much on something that will happen at some point anyway?

Later edit:

Courtesy Hels, here is a list:

give or take various and changing state and provincial laws, here are the countries that allow or recognise same-sex marriages:
Netherlands 2001
Belgium 2003
Canada 2003–05
USA 2004-15
Spain 2005
South Africa 2006
Norway 2009
Sweden 2009
Portugal 2010
Iceland 2010
Argentina 2010
Uruguay 2013
New Zealand 2013
France 2013
Brasil 2013
UK 2014
Luxembourg 2015
Guam 2015
Greenland 2015
Ireland 2015
Israel 2006
Mexico 2010

http://www.australianmarriageequality.org/overseas-same-sex-marriages/


22 comments:

  1. Yes.
    The plebiscite is a very expensive way of postponing the inevitable. It was originally proposed by someone who doesn't want to see gay marriage become an option, and should be ditched. Please just do it.

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  2. Give Australia another year! It will happen it will happen

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  3. Anonymous8:47 am

    What bothers me even more is that some right wing ratbag politicians have vowed to ignore the results of the plebiscite if it's not the result they want. Despite the former PM Little Johnny Jackboots insisting the voters 'are our political masters.' (Ha! That'll be the day.) That sounds like a trend developing. 'Oh I didn't like the results of the last federal election, let's have another vote. And get it right this time.' - Ian

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  4. It's all smoke and feathers most people are happy for gays to marry but Mal just doesn't like the idea but he is a bit of a bossy boots.
    Merle.....

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  5. The plebiscite WILL probably indicate that the majority of Australians want to legalise same sex marriage, but not to join the rest of the world. There are very many countries with backward and even medieval legislation, and only (approx) 22 countries with decent legislation. So Australia needs to be a leader, not a follower.

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    1. Hels, yes, but not many western countries that don't allow gay marriage. Of course Australia should have led the world, but we didn't and have pipped even by strongly Catholic countries. Israel too???

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    2. Andrew

      give or take various and changing state and provincial laws, here are the countries that allow or recognise same-sex marriages:
      Netherlands 2001
      Belgium 2003
      Canada 2003–05
      USA 2004-15
      Spain 2005
      South Africa 2006
      Norway 2009
      Sweden 2009
      Portugal 2010
      Iceland 2010
      Argentina 2010
      Uruguay 2013
      New Zealand 2013
      France 2013
      Brasil 2013
      UK 2014
      Luxembourg 2015
      Guam 2015
      Greenland 2015
      Ireland 2015
      Israel 2006
      Mexico 2010

      http://www.australianmarriageequality.org/overseas-same-sex-marriages/

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    3. Thanks Hels. What a backwater we live in.

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  6. I don't see the point in wasting $160million on a poll, that may or may not change anything, when the government already knows that most people either agree with same sex marriage or just don't care.
    Skip the poll, save the taxpayers some money and just change the law already.

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  7. It is a huge waste of money. Just do it!

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  8. AS I expected, you are all in furious agreement with me. I thank you.

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  9. I think there are more important things to deal with then same sex marriages ! i don't care, for me it counts that people are happy ! Finally it's a private affair !

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  10. Honestly, what's the big deal?

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  11. Yes, it is no big deal, and quickly forgotten once granted.

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  12. If it is a reliable and meaningful arrangement that is Ok by Me. I have had one two year wedlock A divorce and one lasting wedlock Of 63 years since aged twenty seven. and a few in between happenings.

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  13. None of the prayer mat users on that list.

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    1. Vest, but a surprising number of catholic countries.

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  14. I love coming in late and reading all your comments Andrew. You have a very interesting 'crew' :) When is the plebby thing due to occur?

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    1. Grace, much common sense is said in my comments. I don't think a date has been set for the plebby. Plebby is such a useful word for me as I have to check how to spell the word each time I use it. Thanks.

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  15. one of my young gay friends has been writing some amazing emails to the pollies regarding same sex marriage. He's been keeping me entertained by sending them to me as well. He writes so very well.

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    1. Fen, good on him. I am aware that my blog does not go unnoticed by people of influence, not matter how naively I write.

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  16. What an appalling group of countries for Australia to associate with...........I don't think.

    Neither civilisation nor the famous 'institution of marriage' has collapsed in any of them.

    Our lily livered politicians - including the PM who is my local member - should just get on with what the taxpayer pays them to do and make a decision; whichever way that decision falls.

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