Saturday, May 02, 2015

A tangled web is weaved

Remember the days before Google became a verb? Yes, we made an internet search using a search engine. I used to use one called Copernicus, which was made up of multiple search engines. Almost as fast as a blink, people switched over to googling for information after Google arrived., and what a hydra Google has become.

I lose track of who owns what now, so let us take a look.

Microsoft of course has the Windows operating system in many computers. What else? It owns Hotmail, the web based email, now apparently called Outlook. I wasn't aware of that. I have a Hotmail account. I wonder if it still works. Had, it doesn't but I think because I have forgotten my login and password.

Microsoft own the Windows operating system, Outlook and Internet Explorer

Google owns Gmail, Blogger/Blogspot, Picasa, You Tube, Chrome and while not technically, but effectively Firefox through an extremely close connection

Facebook owns Instagram and WhatsApp.

Yahoo owns Yahoo Mail of course, Tumblr and Flickr.

On their own, so far, are Reddit, Pinterest, Twitter and Shazam.

I use or have used them all except Outlook.

Google and the companies under it I use a lot and it is the one that annoys me the most because of the way it ties up your identity. I have two You Tube accounts and I have to sign out of Google to use the alternative one and somehow Facebook has become mixed up in this too. Yes, I have two Facebook accounts too, plus another I operate for Mother. So annoying and all the time Google nags at me about Google Plus which I don't really want to use.

Checking four Yahoo email accounts was tedious until I downloaded the Yahoo Mail app. You don't have to log out of one account to check another. You just change by selecting whichever identity you have set up. Four accounts is not excessive, is it?

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  1. Andrew , Uncle google has changed world...

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  2. I think I'm possibly the only person in the world without a Facebook or Twitter account. I'm not quite sure why but I think they are rather evil and dangerous. Google is a pain with Google plus but I forgive them because we have Chrome, which I think is a seriously good browser.

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    1. I don't have Facebook or Twitter either. Biggest time wasters ever invented I think.

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    2. Seems you aren't Craig. Twitter can be very useful for up to date information, such as when there are public transport delays or in emergencies.

      River, I don't disagree with you about FB but it is a good way to keep in touch with the extended family who you don't have much contact with normally. I spend about five minutes every second day on FB, usually to check if there are new photos of my great niece. I saw a video there of her first unaided steps last week.

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    3. Five minutes is good. Five hours isn't (*~*) some people can't seem to stay away from it, checking all day, every day.

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  3. Google is good as a search engine but it annoys me as an email identity thingy. I have a primary email account registered with Google but it won't allow me to change that to one of my other email accounts. Every time I try to it tells me I can't use that email account because it is already taken. I know that email account is taken. It is taken by me.

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    1. Victor, that is exactly the sort of thing I mean. It gets tied in knots and so do we.

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  4. I'm really not fond of any of them, but since the online is my main source of interaction I deal with the one which gives me the fewest problems. At the moment that's Google, it could change at any time.

    Perhaps I should check out yahoo again.

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    1. Jac, that is what we all want, few problems, but Google seem to cause a fair share of mine.

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  5. I can't recall what i used before Google, o do remember there were several search engines.
    i hate how Google wants to take over and how it tries to force us to sign in with our Google ID.
    Tried to log into youtube a while back and had to chane my password, then about 6 months later, had to sign in with Google email the other password didn't exist...Google had chaned yet again...
    Do you remember that you had to be invited by a person who had an active Google email to have a Google email account?

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    1. WA, I think I used Yahoo Search before Google. Before that I can't remember. There was Ask Jeeves, which I didn't use and was there one called Alta Vista? Yes, I have been through what you have too. Painful. I remember receiving an invitation to GMail by someone and I thought why is that so special and never bothered with it? I have an account which I don't really use, but I have to fight to stop it being used automatically at times.

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  6. That would be helpful to not be required to log out of one to access another. Since google acquired youtube, I get regular demands to "One Google" have all accounts with the same password, username, yet I can't figure out how to do it, have tried. I signed on to a youtube account before blogger and youtube were owned by google. So its all messed up but I do the best I can, signing in and out of all the google owned formerly not google owned sites I use.

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    1. Strayer, complicated isn't it. Seems we all have these issues.

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  7. I tried Google Plus once and switched back to Google within hours. I have Yahoo for email and Firefox for everything else.
    Why do you have four email accounts? that's excessive IMO.

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    1. River, I have never really looked at Google Plus. I think it will die one day. Different email accounts for different purposes. I didn't want to be tracked down by people searching of Face Book by the email address I use for my blog, so I used a different account. Another is for when signing up to something where I think there is a risk of spam. And so on it goes. If I trust a person or a business, then I use my Telstra isp email address.

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  8. I can't tell you how many times I have tried to delete my G+ account, it just resurrects itself. Cannot be killed.

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    1. Fen, I was checking out Google Drive for the first time today, trying to find an ocr system that worked. I found things there that apparently I have shared via Google Plus. I deleted them and then they came back. I really don't like it.

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  9. I may, totally accidentally, have hit a winner here. Seventeen years ago a friend set me up with a Hotmail id and password. I have kept that account active and ignored every other email account offered every time I signed up to a new internet provider. (I admit I have changed the Hotmail password once after an apparent steal attempt some years back but I'm still on Hotmail - in all senses - even after it changed to 'outlook. That was a good move on Microsoft's part, the change has been totally transparent to me.)
    It's all a case of 'KISS' I don't want to have to monitor two or more email accounts; that would be rather like owning two or more houses and having to collect mail from all of them - it isn't on.
    I do have a gmail account, set up by another friend who set me up on facebook but I never use it except to access Facebook. In theory no-one can access it but if they do, well, tough - I never use it, never even check it because all the contacts I want to hear from know my Hotmail/Outlook id. I rather think the problem is more of people that think 'Oh! Yes,that's a great idea, let's have another email account, that would look good and make me feel important' rather than thinking 'this could get complex/out of hand/impossible to keep up with. They have no foresight, no idea of what they could be letting themselves in for, just the attraction of having more of something than all their friends.
    As I said, KISS.

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    1. Chris, while I am a great believer in the KISS principle, I am not bothered by multiple email accounts. It is what is done with them that is the issue, and how they link things. In a way, it was KISS for me to have multiple email accounts and certainly not vanity. That is an email address for this area of my life, an email address for another area.

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  10. Hi Andrew,
    I think about this a lot too, as I'm sure do most of us these days. I have become increasingly "google". I am more and more switching from my Yahoo mail account to my gmail email account, as so many things are linked to it. I love the cloud-based apps like google docs, spreadsheets and calendar that have my default way of operating. I switched last year from an iPhone to a Samsung (and the google ecosystem that comes loaded in it), and I find I am less and less creeped out by google than I am amazed/entranced by it. That in itself is a red flag and I know it's creepy. I will have little defense when one day I try to explain to my grandkids how we knew the machines were taking over and still we let it happen, because it was all so cool and convenient.

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    1. Jackie, that is a really interesting take on Google. In spite of the issues people and I have, Google just works so well, except for the identity tie up. The phone numbers in my mobile are backed up to Google, which our inbuilt car device also knows and can find. As I said in an earlier comment, I looked at Google Drive today and I can see the usefulness and potential of it. But yes, it is a worry to trade our privacy for convenience. Humans are pretty smart and it will all work out ok.Btw, read you tweets today on the odd occasion I turn Twitter on.

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  11. Gosh you have a lot going on there Andrew! Don't go Google +, I've heard so many bad things about it. I keep it as simple as poss. Google for blog, yahoo for emails. Facebook which I only use to see family photos, and to post PDP posts. I seriously don't see the point of twitter or Instagram.. I mean WHY?

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    1. Grace, my goodness. You should have a Twitter account and feed and tweet often, promoting your Perth Daily. It is a way to connect with all sorts of people. Ask Aimee. #GraceInPerth #PerthDailyPhoto Grab them before someone else does. Instagram, not so useful to me except for following one blog mate and stalking a couple of cute guys. I don't really know what Google + is about, so I won't go there.

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