Monday, April 22, 2013

But is it art? #372

While I don't mind some street art, I detest graffiti. My first impressions of Paris as we entered on Eurostar was the appalling graffiti lining the railway line. Worse, it was in French and I could not read it, like I can read local graffiti, not. I have noticed even the lovely picturesque Lisbon is spoilt by graffiti.

In spite of the City of Phillip offering a free graffiti removal service, people can't even be bothered to use it. Perhaps as soon as it was removed, more would be added. I walked no more than a few steps to take these photos in Balaclava. Ugly work by ugly people.







18 comments:

  1. I couldn't agree more Andrew. Every city I have visited in Europe greets me with graffiti.I hate it.

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    1. Fun60, it seems particularly bad in Europe, worse than in England, the US and here.

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  2. Agree that mindless 'tagging' is disgusting. little brats making the only mark on life they will ever manage.

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    1. Ann, it is really a loser thing isn't it.

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  3. I suppose that art is whatever people call art. Remember the toilet bowl by Marcel Duchamp back in 1917? I thought it was the ugliest thing in history and if he intended to be provocative, he succeeded. So our question should be not is graffiti art? But can graffiti ever be beautiful or creative or thoughtful? I think not.

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    1. Hels, I don't remember it but yes, I agree. If art can provoke and stir and garner attention, it has done half its job. Look at the sculptures of the three men at the corner of Bourke and Swanston. People adore them, yet are they good sculptures? I rather think they really.

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    2. The Tate says:
      Fountain (urinal) is one of Duchamp's most famous works and is widely seen as an icon of twentieth-century art. Fountain is an example of what Duchamp called a 'readymade', an ordinary manufactured object designated by the artist as a work of art. It epitomises the assault on convention and good taste.

      http://www.tate.org.uk/art/artworks/duchamp-fountain-t07573

      A real assault on good taste, yes.

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    3. The piece can't have been admired much since it became lost. Not sure it was a good idea to recreate it with a copy.

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  4. To be blunt, taggers remind me of dogs passing trees. However, since the [not vic rail - whoever] started painting over tags within 24 hours there are not many who bother any more.
    What they do to trains is appalling.

    Vandalism is vandalism, but at least 40 years ago the vandals were amusing.

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    1. FC, I think they pull trains off that have been graffitied. I recently read that Yarra Trams only pull trams off if the graffiti is offensive.

      Yes, clever political criticism 40 years ago.

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  5. Graffiti such as you've posted here is definitely not art.
    Street art with its colourful designs and images, some of it as whole murals is much nicer and can be called art, though it is still graffiti. Unless it has been commissioned by someone and the artist paid for their work.

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    1. River, I had a friend whose house side brick wall was next to a railway line. He paid an artist to paint a mural to stop the graffiti, and it was fairly successful.

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  6. Not art. Then again some art I deem not to be art. But tagging, in my opinion, is nasty pointless rubbish.

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    1. Fen, are you being really original? Art is in the eye of the beholder? Indeed it is. Tagging is just stupid.

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  7. Yep. Tagging is not art, just ugly vandalism. Occurs everywhere in Europe too.

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    1. I have seen a bit in your own photos Kath.

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  8. Yeah...I agree with you.

    I think it's ugly.

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    1. Keeping in mind where you stayed in Australia is very different to where you live in the US, I think our graffiti is worse than yours Dina.

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