Saturday, November 19, 2011

Too Many Folks

I am a bit conflicted in my own mind. I am not keen on our productive farm land on the outskirts of Melbourne being turned into housing estates (Clyde). But neither am I keen on el cheapo four to five storey flat block buildings being whacked up on historic streets among two storey Victorian buildings (Lygon Street). Nor am I keen on new developments such as Docklands, which seems to be an oft discussed failure. Really bad seems to be highrise buildings being built in already busy and predominately low rise areas (Camberwell Junction).

But it seems we have to house hundreds of thousands of new immigrants somewhere and that requires adjusting housing as we know it.

While immigration built Australia as we know it, I think it must be time to take a breather. An economy built on continuing high immigration is surely not sustainable will reach a snapping point.

It is not like that the government has provided us with infrastructure to cope with the huge population increase.


  1. Hello Andrew:
    It is very difficult to see what the answers can be to these enormous problems of world migration. And, of course, when one hints at the thought of there being just too many people that is never greeted warmly.

  2. Sad, yet inevitable, as you know, where I grew up, the houses will be demolished, and farms will turn into a Freeway.

  3. As Jane and Lance said, world migration...
    One of the many things I don't understand about our societies is why we don't want to face the idea of over-population. It is the same here in the U.S.

  4. Asylum seekers must be stopped first, because a lot of 'em don't make any contribution to the Australian economy and are just a drain on the public purse and services, its just a small step to control over population :-).

  5. There's possibly a very strong economic influence on people importing policies [ageing of the population aside].
    Building and supplies contribute a whopping percentage to GDP [I could make up a figure but that would be cheating].
    This economic policy is especially rewarding if one spends no money at all on infrastructure.
    But if it's inevitable, why not thrash out the conflicts of interest now so growth does not happen in a willy-nilly way?

  6. If the dipshytes in charge of the whole catastrophe invested properly in regional towns we would not be in this quandry.

  7. JayLa, you have no doubt seen figures of how the world population has grown in the last century. If we were animals, we would have died out by now.

    Yep Cazzie. I never thought I would see Pakenham almost joined by continual housing to Dandenong.

    Rubye, I would imagine the US suffers from the same issues, or perhaps it is worse. And unlike you who did the opposite, everyone seems to move to the cities.

    Windsmoke, it rather depends where they come from as to their contribution. Too many asylum seekers from one country is not a good idea. Also there are far too many o/s students who get residency.

    FruitCake, that our economy seems to be built on the construction industry disturbs me and surely it is not sustainable. Big business and government love high immigration levels, the people do not and it is now at the point where it will be impossible to catch up with infrastructure.

    Yeah Jayne. How about they direct some money up near Bendigo way? Seriously, African immigration to Shepparton has worked pretty well, from what I have heard.

  8. I agree with what Ro said. Regional towns need more support and infrastructure, then some of the new arrivals can go there instead of all of them coming to the bigger cities. Where there still isn't enough infrastructure to support the people we already have. (electricity blackouts anyone?)
    I wonder why "they" don't find NONfertile land and build the houses etc on that, (go ahead, make a whole new town), then link to the cities with bigger freeways nad communications cables etc.

  9. I'm sad about Clyde, I used to live up the road from there. It was always nice farmland and little market gardens. I'm concerned there's little to no infrastructure out there, I'm sure they'll add on a bus or two at irregular times. But there's nothing else. It means more cars on our already congested freeways. More people trying to squeeze onto trains that already do not cope. But then again I don't have any answers either, so I'll shut my mouth!

  10. River, yes, there must be unproductive land around that could be used for housing. And a lot of country towns that have lost their populations could easily build the number up again and revive the services that were there.

    Fen, I had a great uncle who lived at Clyde. The funny little train line was still used when we used to visit him. No one in guv really seems to answers either, so best to slow the pop growth until they do.