Tuesday, December 11, 2007

What is going on here?

Am I missing something in my view of the legal matters?

A city cafe owner was warned twice about his dirty premises and then finally charged after he took no action. Before the courts, he was fined and no conviction recorded.

Some lads have their wicked ways with a ten year old lass and are not sent to gaol. Aside from rights or wrongs of the sentence, no convictions recorded.

I am sure there are some minor matters where it is perhaps appropriate to not record a conviction, but the above two examples are very serious matters.

Keep your eyes peeled for the phrase, no conviction recorded.

10 comments:

  1. i don't think you can compare a gang rape case to a dirty cafe

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  2. I am not comparing them Kiki. They are both examples of my point. A mass food poisoning could be potentially worse than one person raped, but as I said, there is no comparison.

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  3. It's an issue that's getting through some column inches and blogosphere html code at the moment. Have a look at http://anonymouslefty.blogspot.com/and his take on the media's under-reporting of the details of the case and the judge's comments.

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  4. I had a quick look Lad, and it confirms to me to be sceptical (sorry, forget how to spell it) about media reporting of such matters. My post was not about the case. They were found guilty, as was the cafe owner, yet 'no conviction recorded'. Both are serious crimes.

    I would not be brave enough, nor know enough about the rape case to enter into a discussion of the rights or wrongs of the conviction. I leave that to the more educated and knowledgeable peoples.

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  5. John Howard - No Conviction Recorded.

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  6. No conviction recorded Rob, but what a humiliation.

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  7. I guess thats a universal problem which affects every country to a certain degree. The legal system in India is particularly affected by this. Sometimes, by the time a case can even come to trial, one or the other of the parties involved in it are dead....

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  8. Yes Lalitha. I recently read of a case where an Aussie woman married an Indian man and went to live with him in India. The marriage did not work but he kept harassing her for 'dowry' money. He has been charged but it could take decades before it gets to court. Justice delayed is justice denied, not that things happen so fast in Australian courts either.

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  9. A recorded conviction prevents a person from obtaining a visa to the USA.

    If the owner of a music business, who needs to go there more than once a year, suddenly finds himself with a conviction for displaying obscene material ( The Dead Kennedy's vinyl - Too Drunk To Fuck), there is a lot of hysteria in the household, let me tell you (it was 1981).

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  10. That is why there does need to be discretion available to the magistrate. Btw, did you catch Pennies, Pokies, Punks and The Prince on ABC RN?

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